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How to riflemortar 26 Jul 2014 21:06 #49456

since few pf people started to call me cheater, because of this, I want to make tutorial with screenshots how to riflemortar on kernwaffe maps
Ill show you how I do stuff like this:


hard part of this is to remember all spots where to aim and stand, for good accuracy of standing I go to corners so Its easy to stand at exact position
to adjust aim I mostly use stars at dark maps, u have to enable sky ( r_showsky 1 ) and set r_picmip 1 / 0
or I use buildings like in video. Its really hard to aim at plain sky

most of these tricks requires knowing when enemy spawns, Im not gonna teach you this, but atleast Ill give hint to use command /timerset [number] for goldrush: /timerset 16, I mostly shoot 1 second before enemy spawns

some spots where grenade explodes can be seen from limbo menu for example: venice spot C or warbell spot C

here http://imgur.com/a/bhjYN I uploaded album of most tricks I use,
for spot there are 2 screens: where to adjust aim with riflecam of landing grenade and other for adjusting position to stand

I snapped and trained this in special copy of ET, where I got clean NQ mod. I start et.exe with parameter +set fs_game nq, which select NQ mod
then I enter command /devmap goldrush-gals. This will start local server. In cfg I got cvar jp_insanity 13683 which enables Riflecam, mortarcam, instantspawn, unlimited ammo, etc.
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How to riflemortar 27 Jul 2014 06:55 #49458

I would say: Ban kimi and limit riflenades to -1 :laugh:
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How to riflemortar 27 Jul 2014 11:03 #49459

so you uploaded pic, where you are using riffle cam ? cool and he not not getting baned ?
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How to riflemortar 27 Jul 2014 12:06 #49460

interesting upload of riffle cam by kimi. say a lot to me I wonder how an admin can say OK to this
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How to riflemortar 27 Jul 2014 13:04 #49461

Wat? oO
Was soll "riflemortar" sein? Meinst du einfach nur gut mit der Riflenade zu schießen? Weil, der Mortar ist die einzige Waffe, die spitzen Ellipsen-Flugbahnen kann. Riflenades despawnen meistens einfach, wenn sie die entsprechende Höhe im Himmel erreichen.
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How to riflemortar 27 Jul 2014 13:35 #49462

I said I was snapping and training this on local nq server with jp_instanity 16383 which enables riflecam
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How to riflemortar 27 Jul 2014 13:39 #49463

Amadeus_Denmark wrote:
so you uploaded pic, where you are using riffle cam ? cool and he not not getting baned ?
Amadeus_Denmark wrote:
interesting upload of riffle cam by kimi. say a lot to me I wonder how an admin can say OK to this


What the hell?
If you would have read the complete post of Kimi you might have noticed he was training it on his own local server with riflecam, mortarcam, panzercam and so on enabled. Everyone can do this, it is in NQ, we have even a fun command for this on KW.

What this means to gameplay is another thing, which the Kernwaffe Staff / Admins probably have to think about.
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How to riflemortar 27 Jul 2014 14:26 #49465

I so disagree, its bull. you can see he use riffle cam and proud post it here, and its ok ?
but i will stop, no reason for me to argue anymore
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How to riflemortar 27 Jul 2014 15:03 #49466

Amadeus_Denmark wrote:
I so disagree, its bull. you can see he use riffle cam and proud post it here, and its ok ?
but i will stop, no reason for me to argue anymore

So what? I don't get your point.
The rifle cam is enabled server side. Like the cams for mortar and panzer. If it is enabled, it is useable for all.
So he was using the rifle cam on another server and not kernwaffe, and as he stated, he was running a local server on his pc, which can be done in a single command line by everyone. Try it yourself.

And i understand that Kimi has the ambition to show off that he is not "cheating", as he is sharing his knowledge about it in form of a guide or tutorial on how to do. As i speced him since months i know he was getting better with this "riflemortaring". It takes a lot of time and effort to learn all the places and according directions to shoot, like it does for someone who likes to play mortar more often.
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How to riflemortar 27 Jul 2014 18:06 #49468

He has been practicing with rifle cam on, on his OWN PRIVATE SERVER. This way he managed to learn where to aim for on regular servers like KW, WITHOUT rifle cam on.

I don't see how this is cheating. Like Luke says, anyone can do it. Stop trying to ban people for bullshit reasons Amadeus. Just like using a rifle cam, you can do that on your OWN PRIVATE SERVER.
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How to riflemortar 27 Jul 2014 18:41 #49469

Reminds me of communication models by Friedemann Schulz von Thun (4 ears model)

or just WTF :blink:

However, learning this for some kills would not be worth for me, but ok.
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How to riflemortar 28 Jul 2014 01:30 #49470

Many people in here seems to getting a little too emotional - harsh, defensive or offensive. I don't understand why. I believe that we all have a right for our viewpoint and I respect that right.

For me, it doesnt disturb so much that this "trick" is beeing used but the way it is changing the gameplay. For the people who visit this forum and read this topic, getting killed this way is not suprising. But for new people it can be really suprising or hard to understand. I know how to avoid getting killed with that most of the times, but there is always a risk getting riflenade wherever you are.

I actually say thanks to Kimi for explaining what is going on - if someone needs more explanation, i hope that he is willing to do that (demo etc). Like Commander said - learning it for some kills doesnt seem to be worhty of my time but i also dont "pick a side" for this matter.I hope that (like Luke said) the discussion over its impact will be discussed.

:P Maybe just add the riflecam to all and everyone will be happy.. ?

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How to riflemortar 28 Jul 2014 02:27 #49472

Citrus# wrote:
Many people in here seems to getting a little too emotional - harsh, defensive or offensive. I don't understand why.

ET is serious business!

:P Maybe just add the riflecam to all and everyone will be happy.. ?

NO. :S
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How to riflemortar 28 Jul 2014 13:32 #49475

Guys & Girls
This is the tutorial section.
Every post needs review + approval by an admin.
So please keep on topic.
From now on, we will refuse, delete or edit posts that aren't related.
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How to riflemortar 28 Jul 2014 18:03 #49477

Looks like the "HOW TO" is explained already. Topic solved.

@silencer / @the rest:
Whether the gameplay is impaired or the number of the rifles is too high, can be discussed with pleasure in an other topic.

So please stick to questions regarding the "how to".

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How to riflemortar 30 Jul 2014 02:51 #49481

no timer?
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How to riflemortar 30 Jul 2014 09:57 #49483

Kimi wrote:
most of these tricks requires knowing when enemy spawns, Im not gonna teach you this, but atleast Ill give hint to use command /timerset [number] for goldrush: /timerset 16, I mostly shoot 1 second before enemy spawns

thanks :laugh:
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How to riflemortar 14 Sep 2014 22:26 #49642

Well even if it is an old topic,
maybe you should just disable the "timerset"-command. Because if you know when the enemy is spawning it is a huge advantage, not only for this rifflething. And i guess 99,9% of the common players doesnt use this.
If you do so (Disable), and someone still wants to makes those "blind"(trained) rifflegun-shoots, he at least has to suggest the spawntimes.
Axis spawntime and allies spawntime should be different of course and not a common multiple.
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How to riflemortar 15 Sep 2014 16:30 #49644

Maybe admins should forbid brain too, because a lot players don't use it too :P
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