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Insults 10 Dec 2014 01:22 #49917

this is going to far im tired to listen insults from some individuals,every time when i come here i hear more and more insults i really love to play on this server but this really out of hand :angry: Djusi
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Insults 10 Dec 2014 08:49 #49918

/ignore djusi
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Insults 10 Dec 2014 15:31 #49920

Well Djusi is right
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Insults 10 Dec 2014 20:06 #49922

dear djusi,

would you be so kind and post some of the insults you are talking about?
you can look up the server chat here: www.vereinte-nationen.de/kw_joomla/index.php/en/chatlog-en

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Insults 10 Dec 2014 21:41 #49924

2014-12-10 01:06:33 voilegarde_b3 tanja@testing army of suckers
2014-12-10 01:06:29 voilegarde_b3 Der_BMX what does aos mean
2014-12-10 01:06:26 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 i slap my glove in your faces
2014-12-10 01:06:25 voilegarde_b3 'panzerballett no party with retarded cov
2014-12-10 01:06:18 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 puny aos members
2014-12-10 01:06:13 voilegarde_b3 tanja@testing nem haxing again?
2014-12-10 01:05:58 voilegarde_b3 zebulon !afk
2014-12-10 01:05:57 voilegarde_b3 'panzerballett fuck off
2014-12-10 01:05:50 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 wanna party panzer?
2014-12-10 01:05:50 voilegarde_b3 tanja@testing you just come here to destroy gameplay
2014-12-10 01:05:39 voilegarde_b3 'panzerballett WHERE IS THE SECRET ROOM?
2014-12-10 01:05:37 voilegarde_b3 AoS|Djusi|S yes not to insult noone here we all come to have fun not insult people
2014-12-10 01:05:25 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 aos is the offspring of satan
2014-12-10 01:05:04 voilegarde_b3 tanja@testing n1
2014-12-10 01:05:00 voilegarde_b3 tanja@testing and their leader is the greatest douche around
2014-12-10 01:04:57 voilegarde_b3 -|PS|-SturmGonzo ur bluddy face
2014-12-10 01:04:51 voilegarde_b3 tanja@testing their main priority is to be nice
2014-12-10 01:04:44 voilegarde_b3 -|PS|-SturmGonzo lool
2014-12-10 01:04:42 voilegarde_b3 -|PS|-SturmGonzo xD
2014-12-10 01:04:41 voilegarde_b3 Arbo pro NL xD
2014-12-10 01:04:33 voilegarde_b3 tschumpa ;)
2014-12-10 01:04:29 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 the recepy aint that bad ;)
2014-12-10 01:04:25 voilegarde_b3 Johnus i remember when they started to exist
2014-12-10 01:04:24 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 but trust me
2014-12-10 01:04:17 voilegarde_b3 Johnus heheheh
2014-12-10 01:04:14 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 forgot about them
2014-12-10 01:04:11 voilegarde_b3 tanja@testing it'ebola
2014-12-10 01:04:10 voilegarde_b3 'panzerballett is a group of noobs
2014-12-10 01:04:08 voilegarde_b3 tschumpa :)
2014-12-10 01:04:04 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 it was funny :D:D
2014-12-10 01:04:04 voilegarde_b3 'panzerballett aos is not even a clan
2014-12-10 01:04:01 voilegarde_b3 tschumpa oh, sorry - but still top 10
2014-12-10 01:03:59 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 i checked that yesterday aftr you told me
2014-12-10 01:03:50 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 thats old :D
2014-12-10 01:03:47 voilegarde_b3 tanja@testing where would they play, their lovely bot server?
2014-12-10 01:03:46 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 lol tschumpa
2014-12-10 01:03:40 voilegarde_b3 Arbo pro NL against whuut?
2014-12-10 01:03:39 voilegarde_b3 tanja@testing as if they really would leave
2014-12-10 01:03:39 voilegarde_b3 tschumpa saw it?
2014-12-10 01:03:33 voilegarde_b3 tanja@testing that'y luke is against it
2014-12-10 01:03:29 voilegarde_b3 Reji #1 aos scum
2014-12-10 01:03:24 voilegarde_b3 tanja@testing yeah
2014-12-10 01:03:21 voilegarde_b3 'panzerballett cancers...
2014-12-10 01:03:18 voilegarde_b3 'panzerballett aos are the only ones who dont limited rifles
2014-12-10 01:03:18 voilegarde_b3 nabs#nemesis well why change a winning formula
2014-12-10 01:03:14 voilegarde_b3 Johnus maybe they simply dont give a fuck
2014-12-10 01:03:06 voilegarde_b3 Johnus server superadmins
2014-12-10 01:03:02 voilegarde_b3 Johnus the server admin community
2014-12-10 01:03:01 voilegarde_b3 nabs#nemesis xD
2014-12-10 01:02:55 voilegarde_b3 tschumpa @kernwaffe forum - klick onto teamkillers, cheaters & co - then the 6th AND the 7th post ;)
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Insults 10 Dec 2014 23:04 #49925

omg tanja and panzerballett

thats not the behavior i expect from regulars like u r!
at what point u do accept that AoS isnt recruit the way u thinking about?
They bind poeple on KW!
They r still part of KW, never the less u try to speak bad about them!

That totally stupid fight against AoS is annoying me.

@panzerballett: u did more forbidden things the last two weeks then Amadeus did ever,
u used secret room and kill players, u did sk, and now u attack AoS that way?

shame on u

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Insults 11 Dec 2014 09:55 #49926

well in my defense the redzone in oasis has gaps and it was probably the first sk i made in months and i didn't mean too, i wanted to throw to the upper floor, u just lacked sensitivity at the moment. As far as the secret rooms are features of the maps, i get warned for using the mlb and stopped and the chateau i was trying to search for for it, no big deal..

My only problem with aos it's the excess rifles leading to a awful gameplay ( i say cancers to all the rifles) and the rushing of maps we wait for 60 maps to play them but that's not new..

Taking things out of content is always and leaving gaps of time is message degradation, we were just talking about rifles, one thing led to another, perfectly natural.

"Oh no, the internet is insulting some kind of thing i'm a part of, i must respond..."

And we have a whiner!
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Insults 11 Dec 2014 14:13 #49927

my 50 cents:

The reason why I come here and play an ancient game after at least ten years is that there is a LOT of ppl who keep the fun on the "fun server". And I'm not talking about the admin staff.
I've met funny, interesting, nice folks here and had an incredible amount of fun over the years. And being an admin here my goal is to keep up the good mood.
But there's no reason to think that everybody agrees with that. Some people can't live without nagging, insulting and finding everything shit. The internet calls them trolls, haters and so on. Nothing you can't do about it.
--> "haters gonna hate."
As you can imagine being admin brings a lot of insults for you. And panzerballet calling me an asshole being the last one, let me use that to explain my pov:
Here's my list of ppl whose opinion I care about:
1. - approx. 100.: Family and friends
303.: My neighbor's cat which I feed from time to time
808.: Every stranger I meet on the street
1000.: the Ficus Microcarpa Ginseng tree from IKEA that - just like kernwaffe - refuses to die since 2004
1001.: panzerballet


To sum it up for you, djusi:
Who cares? You guys have been a welcome part of the community and you will be until no one pays the electricity bill anymore. You're a good gang and there's a reason your numbers are that big.


But I will try to be more sensitive about the language on the server in the future. You're right about the language becoming more aggressive lately, I noticed that too. I'm sure the rest of the admin staff agrees with me on that point.
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Insults 11 Dec 2014 15:01 #49928

my 2 cents

OMG, its just a game people. Relax, enjoy and respect each other.

Not everybody is as talented and genius when it comes to playing ET.

Some of us are born noob and, even after 10 year playing ET and over 1000K XP stay playing like a noob.
But who cares? Like Dessi noted, main goal is having fun together!
Therefore we all play on a fun server.
Be glad we have a (free and managed) server full of people with different skills who play for fun.

When your intention is different, there are other servers for that.

Djusi (and the rest of AOS), relax and dont let them get under your skin. Its not worth it.
I for me, and i am sure the majority of (un-clanned) players on the Kernwaffe servers will agree with me, are glad that AOS plays with us.

When the number of players goes down, the end of the server will be very close by!
And that is something none of us wishes.

(i am not as wealthy as Dessi with his big KW-admin income :woohoo: therefore i only do my 2 ct and not 50)
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Insults 11 Dec 2014 16:54 #49929

Thank you Dessi. I was there that evening and the reason why I didn't do anything was because I'm tired of being a freaking kindergarten cop.
(And also because I missed half of the conversation because I was having a conversation with another player and at the same time busy trying to do the objective and having some goddamn fun.)

- Djusi and Amadeus, I have given you both tips on how to deal with this. For example, just ignoring or even using the ignore function, but you refuse to do it.

- Tanja and Panzerballet I have warned and muted them multiple times, but they refuse to stop.

So seriously: what the hell?!! We are all adults here. Do I really need to take you all by the hand and show you how to get along? Do I need to organize a boot camp so we can learn how to work as a team?

This is how I see it: we all live in countries where we get enjoy the right to freedom of speech. With it comes the right to insult. Some will choose to exercise this right. I suggest you find a way to deal with it.

Besides, just because AoS members are smart enough to keep it behind the closed doors of their private TS channel, doesn't mean that you guys never insult people. It's just not out there for the whole world to see.
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Insults 11 Dec 2014 18:31 #49934

"Forget injuries , never forget kindnesses however"
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Insults 11 Dec 2014 19:01 #49935

Like that AoS dude calling me a "cocksucker" once I said something along the lines of "it takes one to know one" to him when he called someone a noob. Of course stuff like that isn't listed here, it's not like you guys are angels all the time. ;)

And Panzerballet is right about rushing maps. It sucks for other people when most/all AoS members are on the same team using TS - so they can sometimes win maps that we've waited for like an hour to play in a let's call it "not so stellar campaign" right now in like 5 minutes and spam "AoS AoS" afterwards in chat. I think this needs to be addressed since it's all happening on the KW TS server. Inb4 "you can also use TS" is an invalid argument, since some people don't like to talk in a mic when playing ET and I'm one of them, it's not like Counterstrike where the majority uses one.

And by the way, not everyone who keeps quiet is "glad" about AoS playing with us. I know for a fact they don't have the best name around because of their low standards and the excess of riflenading/panzering. Maybe ask yourself once why some people are irritated, it doesn't always come out of thin air. Other than that, no one gets personally insulted but merely the individuals gameplay, so to me this whining topic is exaggerated to be honest. If you think this is insulting, you should try Counterstrike or League of Legends - compared to that this is childs play.

Take one of these:

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Insults 11 Dec 2014 20:21 #49936

sry but thats just not true:
"It sucks for other people when most/all AoS members are on the same team using TS"
i didnt c most/all AoS Members playing at on team, there r allways AoS Members on the other Team

in that moment i c 4 Starfacers at Axis + 7 AoS,
at Allies r no Starfacer and 2 AoS...
and i bet most/all the time AoS is in both Teams

"And Panzerballet is right about rushing maps"
iff there is a way to rush, there must be a way to defend,
just cuz off some players didnt like to defend or like to troll around or give a shit on teamchat and ignore "fall back/defend our Objective" or like to waste time by typing trash or .... u cant blame AoS for playing as a Team

and ts : we also/often have traitors ;) (AoS Members and other including me) who r in ts but playing in the other team.

"If you think this is insulting, you should try Counterstrike or League of Legends"
nah, i dont want to play Counterstrike or League of Legends to learn what insulting means,
its no reason to provocate Players here

at least just in that moment r
4 Aos Members at Axis
5 " at Allies
looks like they also care off teams, just now i think :)

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Insults 11 Dec 2014 21:15 #49937

yes i use ts channel but i never come here to insult someone just to have fun with other players :)
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Insults 11 Dec 2014 21:19 #49938

Wow, lots of frustrations I see. So to vent my own frustrations on this subject...

1. The AoS camp complains that the anti-AoS camp insults them.
Even though I feel like we can't force people to shut up and it doesn't bother me directly (also because I know how much crap we talk at night), it obviously does annoy certain people. Not only AoS members, but also non-AoS members. And even though I think it's the best solution to ignore such people, I can't force people to do that either.
Aside from this, I must admit that I always see the same people complaining. Not only about AoS, but also about the admin team and every freaking little thing that annoys them. At times I'm able to handle this better than others, but I would lie if I'd say it doesn't annoy me at all.

2. The anti-AoS camp blames this on the AoS camp often rushing the maps.
I have to agree that this can be quite annoying. Especially when the whole purpose of the map goes to waste and some backdoor is used, only to do objective. For me it's all about the journey, not about the destination. Sometimes I feel cheated out of a good fight, because it was easier or more convenient to use a sneaky way.

3. The anti-AoS camp blames this on AoS for excessive use of rifle nades and panzers.
I can be very clear on this complaint: these are the server settings. They have been this way forever already and they are not likely to change. If you don't like the server settings, I suggest you find another server.
How annoying as it can be to face a constant rain of panzers and nades, players are just using the tools provided for them. There are more than enough players that like to play panzer or rnades. No need to single out AoS because they happen to be a legion.
That a lot of AoS players happen to be panzers or rnaders, is not AoS' fault. I don't think they actively seek out players that play with these weapons to recruit them. I just think that there are not a whole lot of 'etpro'-like players are interested in joining a clan such as AoS.
Besides, having a clan of professional raters join the server can be just as annoying, if not more annoying. At least AoS players are willing to even the teams and don't insist on playing all on one side.

The solution?
So since only points 1 and 2 are valid arguments to feel frustrated in my eyes, maybe both camps can make a bit of an effort? Maybe AoS could try not to rush maps (or at least wait 1/4 of the duration of the map before doing so). (Oh and maybe we should go back to smaller campaigns, so people don't have to wait so long if a map gets rushed.)
In return, the anti-AoS camp could find all like-minded people and start a fire team. And limit the bitching and the whining to fire team chat, instead of constantly confronting all of us with your PMS.

Thoughts?
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Insults 11 Dec 2014 21:44 #49939

lol this is getting out hand also
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Insults 11 Dec 2014 22:07 #49940

Hey,

I usually keep myself a little out of discussions like this because I dont get offended easily. But beeing in the server pretty long time and after seeing many people, I feel that I should write my thoughts also here.

As much as we can, AOS will always support the teamplay part of the game. Its one of the reasons why we have come together - we like to play for the objective. And on the way, we have reach to most of them with help of others. Bong, Luke, Patrick, Davey, Mili, Fussel - different people have been with us in teamspeak, in fireteams and I hope they can say that we play for the objective but we also enjoy the journey. Even panzerpallet himself as been part of it. If you like to just have a journey then you can play maps like Base Race as long as you like.

Lets take a map like goldrush. Is the journey to axis stay in bank and allies outside? Is that so fun? I remember the topic when there was a issue with our member who didnt deliver the objective as fast to the needed location as possible. Isnt that now a little hypocritical? (www.vereinte-nationen.de/kw_joomla/index...s-djusi-banned-today I dont wanna bring that up again. Sorry.)

Like Neme said, the settings in the server are the same for everybody. We have the same chance to use rifles or panzas as any other player in server. There has been and always will be much more skilled players in server with those weapons - for example Ragnar. With panzer also. Those things are part of the game and if you dont like it, then the problem is in you - not in AOS.

Insults. They are not good and doesnt advertise any server well. There are no new people coming when older players keeps firing insults. It seems like a bad enviroment and people will leave. Nobody likes to be insulted. I agree with desi, that people should not care so much what is beeing written, but still... Insults gets dropped daily and although we become so numb what others are saying, KW is not a public place - we should not have acceptance for it. Call each other noob, or stupid or even worse...behind the keys of a message board? Its a typed in hate, but still why do we ignore it? All the people are not the same. Some are more emotional, some more vunerable. If they are not expected to the server - then it would be fair to let them know about it.. And if any AOS member is insulting anybody or act naughty - we will deal with it. I will deal with it personally if needed.

But is all of this caused by a single thing, that people wait different things from the game? We can cope with people who doesnt play objective. We try to involve them to attack or to defence. We can be bitter sometimes but there are no namecalling or bullying anybody because of it. ET is a objective based game and if you dont like that your gold is stolen or your radar is blown up, then it is apparently not a game for you.


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Insults 11 Dec 2014 22:35 #49941

Nemesis wrote:
3. The anti-AoS camp blames this on AoS for excessive use of rifle nades and panzers.
I can be very clear on this complaint: these are the server settings. They have been this way forever already and they are not likely to change. If you don't like the server settings, I suggest you find another server.

You do know that this is BS. Not long ago the admins gave in on criticism and limited rifles from 5 to 3 per team, which was a relief visible in gameplay. It was then AoS who cried on the forums here and threatened to leave the server because they now had two rifles less to use in a team, coming up with weak arguments like "an engi needs riflenades to complete the obj", as if 3 riflenaders wouldn't be enough. From that point on I'm rather pissed because it was a step in the right direction and a better mix of fun and good gameplay without getting a riflenade in your face every 5 seconds for once. But the admins reverted it to the old settings because of their threatening of leaving the server, which I hugely doubted in the first place because there are simply not many other places to go nowadays and I don't see them playing like ETPro. I'm fine with the panzer limitation. Now I can't help but see AoS as a laughing stock because I do know from my own experience that most of them are on riflenade and are exceptionally weak without it. I can be more discrete about it in the future but I won't change my mind. By the way, telling a regular who played on KW long before some knew that ET exists to look for another server is not the right way to threat them, you should always be open for criticism.

And to Bong, I didn't say in my first post that the teaming up always happens but it has happened on some occasions and resulted in rushing the map, which is a waste of a good map and rightly annoys some people.

Citrus# wrote:
Lets take a map like goldrush. Is the journey to axis stay in bank and allies outside? Is that so fun? I remember the topic when there was a issue with our member who didnt deliver the objective as fast to the needed location as possible. Isnt that now a little hypocritical? (www.vereinte-nationen.de/kw_joomla/index...s-djusi-banned-today I dont wanna bring that up again. Sorry.)

First of all, what's the point of posting the link if you didn't want to bring that topic up again? That occasion was based on misunderstanding because you told the guy on TS to stay put while he didn't listen to the non-AoS players in the team chat. That's what you get.
Secondly yes, it is the "journey" for the Allies to break the Axis' defense on Goldrush. What do you expect? To let you waltz right in? It's still something else than using TS as an advantage over the other team to rush maps.
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Insults 11 Dec 2014 23:12 #49942

just let us play, we do you no harm.
ignore us please, just let us play our game. let us go in peace. I will for sure try just not comment you guys and i hope you will do the same. no need to comment us any more please. there is no reason to this arguing, lets try end it in peace.
just let us play.
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Insults 12 Dec 2014 01:33 #49943

Citrus, I wasn't talking about normal objective play. I also like to play for objective.
I was talking about those instances where an objective is done by avoiding the defending enemy forces altogether. Often by a cvops in combination with an engineer. By the time you hear the plant, it's already too late and most of the players are still fighting in the first part of the map.
Now I agree that it can be a good way to win a map when you have been trying for a while without success. But if you try this tactic within the first couple of minutes of a map and successfully, players will often feel cheated out of playing a good map.


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You do know that this is BS. Not long ago the admins gave in on criticism and limited rifles from 5 to 3 per team, which was a relief visible in gameplay. It was then AoS who cried on the forums here and threatened to leave the server because they now had two rifles less to use in a team, coming up with weak arguments like "an engi needs riflenades to complete the obj", as if 3 riflenaders wouldn't be enough. From that point on I'm rather pissed because it was a step in the right direction and a better mix of fun and good gameplay without getting a riflenade in your face every 5 seconds for once. But the admins reverted it to the old settings because of their threatening of leaving the server, which I hugely doubted in the first place because there are simply not many other places to go nowadays and I don't see them playing like ETPro. I'm fine with the panzer limitation. Now I can't help but see AoS as a laughing stock because I do know from my own experience that most of them are on riflenade and are exceptionally weak without it. I can be more discrete about it in the future but I won't change my mind. By the way, telling a regular who played on KW long before some knew that ET exists to look for another server is not the right way to threat them, you should always be open for criticism.

What are you talking about? As far as I can remember, rnades were never limited to 3 per team.

I found the original post: www.vereinte-nationen.de/kw_joomla/index...nades?start=20#48343

And as far as I know, they are still limited. Now they may have changed the initial numbers a bit, I haven't heard about it, but then again I have been away for a while. But to quote Hose:

unterhose wrote:
those values (thresholds as well as limits) are still open for further discussion! but
please, keep it factual and don t be all whiny, melodramatic or raging!

i hope this solution is satisfactory and want to ask for feedback.

How is that for not being open to criticism?

Now I don't want the threaten you, but yeah, if you don't like the amount of panzers and rnades on KW, there are three things you can do. Either you open up another topic about it (although I don't think you will be very successful), you accept it, or you try to find another server that suits your expectations better.
No need to take your frustrations about this subject out on AoS, they're not even the ones deciding on the matter.
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